Posted by Halite > 2018-04-26 16:39 | Report Abuse

what is good ?

why it is good ?

how it is measured ?

risk tolerance ?

market movement or business performance?

fast money or safe money?

what is the most commonly accepted valuation method

if you are not lazy , then spend some time to read all my comments,

you will certainly learn a lot of things that i had learnt from other sifu here

that will certainly make you a better investor if not a successful one





amzarb44: Halite, how can we know the stock is good or bad?
26/04/2018 14:46

Posted by Halite > 2018-04-26 17:02 | Report Abuse

amzarb44,


Sapnrg and Petronm are both O&G counters
I like O&G because they fit my luck this year
which one is better ?

my sifu said sapnrg is no good but cimb said very good
my sifu said petronm good and cimb also said not bad

what I said

if I say petronm is better than sapnrg now , then my good friend will not agree

what to do ,

I buy petronm as my wife and buy sapnrg as my wife loh......

all happy

that is called good

understand ?

Posted by john0909 > 2018-04-26 17:03 | Report Abuse

http://www.bursamalaysia.com/market/listed-companies/company-announcements/5772557

http://www.bursamalaysia.com/market/listed-companies/company-announcements/5772553

Posted by john0909 > 2018-04-26 17:05 | Report Abuse

http://www.bursamalaysia.com/market/listed-companies/company-announcements/5772589

Posted by john0909 > 2018-04-26 17:08 | Report Abuse

nice... ex date 8 june

Posted by Halite > 2018-04-26 17:08 | Report Abuse

john,

thanks

Posted by SimonLee76 > 2018-04-26 20:52 | Report Abuse

Why is the volume so low recently ?

Posted by Darkoda > 2018-04-27 09:49 | Report Abuse

And why higher dividend still drop? Damn sien leh!

Posted by Darkoda > 2018-04-27 10:07 | Report Abuse

Consolation get more cash in hand ba. Haiz.

Posted by KL Tneoh > 2018-04-27 10:33 | Report Abuse

I see some good developments in the annual report, however depression of refinery margin will drag the share price short term.

Posted by Halite > 2018-04-27 10:40 | Report Abuse

KL Tneoh,

Many lazy investor like me will be very happy with you as our companion

Thanks

Posted by KL Tneoh > 2018-04-27 11:12 | Report Abuse

Thanks, actually I only holding a bit of Petronm shares, personally I think Petronm long term fundamentals still intact and capable management team, if u are willing to wait then it should progress well in the future.

Posted by Halite > 2018-04-27 11:23 | Report Abuse

petronm satisfied all my stock selection criteria , so I will not hesitate to buy more and keep for life
I like the business model and trust the management can do a good job to create more value for shareholders. EPS is more or less guaranteed around RM1.20 per year and is improving for the past few years, if it declares a dividend policy like tnb , then you do not see any reason why it can not be traded at a higher price than petdag

Posted by Halite > 2018-04-27 11:30 | Report Abuse

petronm has very limited free float, when it moves, it shoots like a rocket , whatever paper loss will turn green in just 1 or 2 days. if you are new here you may not believe , if you are long enough here like KL Tneoh you know i am not misleading you

Posted by Halite > 2018-04-27 11:54 | Report Abuse

it is not easy to find a stock that you are not willing to sell or you feel it is not necessary to sell even you believe the market is going to crash tomorrow. you are more willing to buy more if it really happens.
so, do not sell cheap now ,do not cut loss, not necessary. if you can not make any profit here , then share trading is not a business that you can involve. I do not see any reason that you can't win if you can wait.
a true winner does not fear to see some paper loss this year or next year because he knows and believes that it is no surprise or mirale to see 100% or 200% gain the third year . if you ask some trustworthy sifu here , then you will realize that there is no big winner who had not suffer big paper loss before the big win, of course, including sifu cold-eye or warren buffet

Posted by Halite > 2018-04-27 12:05 | Report Abuse

i may sound a bit exaggerating ,
nonetheless , not misleading,
a right investing attitude preached by many successful investors like cold eye, kyy and warren buffet......

Posted by amzarb44 > 2018-04-27 19:29 | Report Abuse

Halite, im give up with johotin, why it keep dropping while it's peers going north huhu

Posted by Halite > 2018-04-28 11:08 | Report Abuse

Don't have to buy so many counters
Put your money in the one you feel safe like FD.
I feel safe in petronm but some may not. It is like some like seafood some don't like. But there is one thing in common, everybody has his blinds pot, that is why we share what we think hoping there are some intelligent ones will help us to see what we do not see

Posted by Halite > 2018-04-28 11:15 | Report Abuse

If you want to see better, then you should accept different views.
OF course not personal attack or a sweeping statement that conveys nothing

Posted by Halite > 2018-04-28 11:39 | Report Abuse

Why I choose to put my money in petronm
Excellent performance
Excellent management
Deeply undervalued
many willing to buy
Paying dividend
Expansion plan
Any good news announced, like dividend policy, better earning, higher growth will push the price sky high
It is my dream
The dream make me feel hopeful everyday
This is enough, I called it a gain like a paper gain that makes you feel rich
This called business. Any business sucess start from a dream.
Sslee also has said his dream, a dream of a democratic, liberal and fair society
I like this dream very much
So this time I decided to vote for a change
Knowing I will lose a lot in ekovest if the dream does come true

Posted by Halite > 2018-04-28 11:47 | Report Abuse

If it doesn't come true
Then I gain money
Take a holiday in NZ to see the mountain and the plain
Come back dream again

Posted by kenlee > 2018-04-29 09:56 | Report Abuse

Will not move as long as hy no move

Posted by EM911 > 2018-04-29 14:49 | Report Abuse

almost 40% down since the last 3 mths

Posted by Halite > 2018-04-30 09:18 | Report Abuse

I do not not want it to drop, I did not ask it to drop, It wants to drop, so let it drops as much lah...
But my heart does not drop

My sifu Aseng said,
Keep your heart always up, everything is OK.

Posted by Halite > 2018-04-30 09:26 | Report Abuse

The winner is the one who does not be defeated by one's distress

Posted by Halite > 2018-04-30 09:27 | Report Abuse

How to beat your own distress?

Posted by Halite > 2018-04-30 09:31 | Report Abuse

Tell yourself share trading is a up and down game
A good stock like petronm will never lie low foever.

Posted by Halite > 2018-04-30 09:41 | Report Abuse

I do not know how much more it will drop
What I know is more it drop more I will switch other counters to petronm and at the end petronm is the one and only one counter in my 2018 portfolio that live through all the sweet and sour with me

Posted by Halite > 2018-04-30 09:43 | Report Abuse

I prepare to lose big and win big in prtronm

Posted by Halite > 2018-04-30 09:44 | Report Abuse

If you are willing to lose big in petronm
Then you will not be defeated by your own distress

Posted by Halite > 2018-04-30 09:47 | Report Abuse

Sslee has a dream of Malaysia
I have a dream of Petronm
Sslee makes big in Malaysia
I make big in Petronm
Sslee is a great man
I am small man
Big man has big dream
Small man has small dream

Posted by Halite > 2018-04-30 13:54 | Report Abuse

Many want to win
Very few prepared to lose big
At the end
you are brave, everybody scares of you

Posted by Notconfused > 2018-04-30 14:30 | Report Abuse

Halite are you ok?

Posted by john0909 > 2018-04-30 15:20 | Report Abuse

he is perfectly fine, don't worry about him

Posted by Halite > 2018-04-30 15:29 | Report Abuse

i don't know

i don't see any problem

suppose to be happy and ok

but not so happy nowadays

because many people who buy petronm not happy and feel ok

so i can not say i am ok and happy

scare you say i am not honest

Posted by sheldon > 2018-04-30 15:53 | Report Abuse

with the price of oil rising & no corresponding increase in petrol prices, Petron will once again suffer from margin compression & it'll affect the bottomline.

Posted by Halite > 2018-04-30 16:42 | Report Abuse

Andy 72,



If I don't write who will write something positive here

andy721 :admin pls... block / remove all these spammers...
30/04/2018 15:50

Posted by Halite > 2018-04-30 16:48 | Report Abuse

andy721:
Are you OK?

I am just keeping petronm forum alive

Posted by Halite > 2018-04-30 16:53 | Report Abuse

If not talk here everyday lah...

something to read is better than nothing to read

May be you can say something about the EPS for Q1

But

I can tell you

It is not difficult to tell for Petronm

It is around 25 cents when it is announced later this month

Posted by Halite > 2018-04-30 16:54 | Report Abuse

So if you want to buy, don't buy now

I scare you curse me if you don't see paper gain

Posted by Halite > 2018-04-30 17:01 | Report Abuse

If market is that efficient as you claimed
Them my girlfriend sapnrg is trading at 1.00 now

sheldon: with the price of oil rising & no corresponding increase in petrol prices, Petron will once again suffer from margin compression & it'll affect the bottomline.
30/04/2018 15:53

Posted by Halite > 2018-04-30 17:05 | Report Abuse

Put high you scare of the mouse
Put low you scare of the cat
If you don't remove such mentality
Then it is quite difficult to survive in Malaysian market

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Posted by Halite > 2018-04-30 17:18 | Report Abuse

You must be brave

If you are brave, then it is you to say win or lose

Why?

YOU HAVE MADE A RIGHT CHOICE

You have chosen Petronm as your wife not Sapnrg

I choose Petronm as my wife and sapnrg as my girlfriend now

Posted by Halite > 2018-05-01 09:46 | Report Abuse

A fair and unbiased valuation is to see for a longer term at least 2 to 3 years, not for a period of 1 month or 1 quarter



sheldon: with the price of oil rising & no corresponding increase in petrol prices, Petron will once again suffer from margin compression & it'll affect the bottomline.
30/04/2018 15:53

Posted by Halite > 2018-05-01 09:49 | Report Abuse

I am keeping this forum alive
You will never see me talking so much when the market is bullish, that is the time the satay man also can talk like a sifu

Posted by Halite > 2018-05-01 09:54 | Report Abuse

Petronm is a great company like musang King
You are planting musang King not rambutan
Patience is the key of your success
So the winner will go to those who is persistent on his belief. That is commonly called confident

Posted by Jaya > 2018-05-01 17:21 | Report Abuse

Halite
Ok I put 500k in tomorrow & wait

Posted by sheldon > 2018-05-01 21:49 | Report Abuse

It's May! - We look forward with great trepidation the 31 Mar quarterly performance.

Posted by Halite > 2018-05-01 22:06 | Report Abuse

If you agree petronm is a great company
If you agree petronm is a right investment
If you agree Petron can pay more dividend
If you agree petronm management is efficient
If you agree petronm earning can improve further for the years to come
If you agree petronm is a good buy now
If you agree petronm should trade at a pe more than 10 like petdag
If you agree petronm is a stock that you dare to buy more when the price drops
If you agree later there is good news to push the price higher, like bonus, dividend policy, expansion...

Then it is no harm to enter now
but
Do it slowly, it is always better to do it batch by batch.
Because when the sentiment is not so good, there are always people who are troubled by their selves created fear or stress and willing to sell cheap to you,


What to do after you have entered?

Come here to talk 3 talk 4 to the world
To make yourself happy and hopeful
If you are happy, then you live longer
The one who can survive longer than the market is always a winner
It is called value investing. Always the most boring and stupid strategy
Now you see why I talk so much 3 and 4 now?
You may not agree.
But, It is ok.
I also sometimes not agree with what I should do