Posted by Jon Choivo > 2018-03-05 14:51 | Report Abuse

You can live till 90.

That is 40 more years.


Posted by Outliar > Mar 5, 2018 02:13 PM | Report Abuse

@JonChoivo That's because you're young, what about other people who are in their 50's?

Posted by john0909 > 2018-03-05 14:52 | Report Abuse

I only got balls to buy petromn, not HY....
worst come to worst I still got 0.25cents div...

Posted by sheldon > 2018-03-05 14:56 | Report Abuse

the floor has fallen out!

Posted by Jon Choivo > 2018-03-05 14:57 | Report Abuse

Its just small fluctuation only. Even the japan deflation and stagflation took only 25 years to recover, this is nowhere near as bad.

Worse case, this will last 10-15 years.

Drop or stay the same till elections, then BN win, short spurt, before drop back cause BN is lapsap. If pakatan win, drop like siao, then stay down then go back up.

Then interest rates around the world slowly go up, making stock prices stay down.

The as interest rate reach certain level. People dont want to do all these stupid startup thing. They all want pull out money. Sentiment affects market, stay down.

Then BOJ, BOC, FR, ECB all want unwind balance sheet. Simi market crash.

BOJ BOC FR and ECB buy back but no change, siao liao. Panic, nobody dare put in money.

And the people think world economy going to end.

Stay that way for 2-4 years. Everyone takut, cause all the stimulus method like no stimulate. AI like no help for economy also.

The suddenly market go up a bit, people feel brave, one buy all buy, fly back up.

10-15 years loh. Ok can wait. Just keep buying if i think cheap.

Posted by Halite > 2018-03-05 15:01 | Report Abuse

be more realistic,

such a bad sentiment , do not expect for a rebound

i dare not hope i can win big now

i only hope that i can buy some near lowest before the rebound.

i never forget the lesson l learnt from my failure

if you can survive longer than the market you are unlikely to lose

Posted by bursaman > 2018-03-05 15:05 | Report Abuse

Both HY and Petronm heavily oversold

Posted by chickenputih > 2018-03-05 15:09 | Report Abuse

wow .. PE 6.6

Posted by Lee Yih Yeong > 2018-03-05 15:11 | Report Abuse

petronm will having huge problem as this company is son of mahathir.. going to GG soon

Posted by charles_cty > 2018-03-05 15:17 | Report Abuse

drop to PE 1 lo....then Petron use the RM 120M net cash to buy back....stupid market...earning company also drop like no tomorrow....

Posted by feet > 2018-03-05 15:18 | Report Abuse

"only when the tide goes out do you discover who has been swimming naked" - WB

Posted by sheldon > 2018-03-05 15:22 | Report Abuse

what could be the likely cause of such a sellout?

1. Investors classify it in the same kettle of fish as Hengyuan

2. Margin traders do not have the cash to pick up hence force sold

3. care to add anyone.....?

Posted by radiata12 > 2018-03-05 15:28 | Report Abuse

3.Bear Bear is coming

Posted by john0909 > 2018-03-05 15:28 | Report Abuse

dude... just overall bad market sentiment only... don't think too much... klse as of now drop -14.51 points..

Posted by ocpd > 2018-03-05 15:50 | Report Abuse

Sure is bad sentiment? My Liihen is up 2% today worr?

Posted by ocpd > 2018-03-05 15:53 | Report Abuse

Ok i bought another little bit of petronm @ RM9.90 to support Halite's fiery enthusiasm lah!

Posted by 1686 > 2018-03-05 15:56 | Report Abuse

would hengyuan price lower than petronm?

Posted by ocpd > 2018-03-05 16:03 | Report Abuse

HY has always been lower than petronm except the past 3 months!

Posted by PotentialGhost > 2018-03-05 16:23 | Report Abuse

10.00 buy after up to 15 .00 win 50% , now drop to 9.80, still lose money ,lol how pukimak malaysia market

Posted by john0909 > 2018-03-05 16:23 | Report Abuse

ocpd Sure is bad sentiment? My Liihen is up 2% today worr?
05/03/2018 15:50

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Overall market bad sentiment means:
As of now in KLSE main market;
Total drop counter as of now is: 586
Total up counter as of now is: 96

Posted by sheldon > 2018-03-05 16:27 | Report Abuse

Mr Halite - I've been as investor/speculator on Bursa for more than 2 decades. Whilst your intentions are good and you seem to speak from the heart, it's my observation on numerous occasions that it's best to humble oneself and not to count the chickens before they hatch.

That's bad luck.

Posted by chickenputih > 2018-03-05 16:33 | Report Abuse

cannot tahan .. cut .. bye

Posted by Halite > 2018-03-05 16:38 | Report Abuse

control your emotion

buy slowly

a little bit , a little bit ....

because we do not know when is the bottom

but i believe it is quite near to the bottom

a rebound is a bonus to you,

a selling down further is an opportunity if you still have the money to buy more

if not, do nothing and wait for the dividend

there is nothing to fear if Petronm meet your buy criteria

during bear market ,I always focus on one company that prepare to hold for life

Posted by john0909 > 2018-03-05 16:46 | Report Abuse

seng gor, my fund is ready to topup again...

not bcoz I followed what u said, it is just coincidently our strat is the same only...

my mind is independent, I know what I need to do, others cant influenced me easily

Posted by Notconfused > 2018-03-05 16:49 | Report Abuse

gone case, prepare to hold tight tight for days/months/years to come...

Posted by Halite > 2018-03-05 16:49 | Report Abuse

very good

we have learnt from our failure

that is why we know what to do during a bear market or market crash

Posted by sheldon > 2018-03-05 16:54 | Report Abuse

Believe me - save for a small minority, we never learn what to do during a bull and bear.

We think we do but we tend to repeat the same behavior again and again. That's the hard truth.

Posted by Halite > 2018-03-05 17:00 | Report Abuse

still remember what uncle koon said ?
market is not like your kind father, who would simply pay up all your bills.

you can not win if you have not learnt from your failure

Posted by bursaman > 2018-03-05 17:03 | Report Abuse

Really over over sold for both Petronm and HY

Posted by Awet91 > 2018-03-05 17:09 | Report Abuse

Bye2

Posted by Halite > 2018-03-05 17:19 | Report Abuse

good.

you have no worry if it drop more tomorrow

Posted by Halite > 2018-03-05 17:21 | Report Abuse

now petronm has turned into my FD with a 25 cents dividend

Posted by Halite > 2018-03-05 17:28 | Report Abuse

if you do not sell , all the paper loss are not real

but most of the people are more willing to turn their paper loss to real loss, less willing to turn their paper gain to real gain.

never learn from their mistake

Posted by Halite > 2018-03-05 17:43 | Report Abuse

Dear Sheldon,

please kindly enlighten me the follow
1. in which occasion i did not exercise the virtue of being humble ?
2. do you consider the example or calculation i use to illustrate the strategy "buy more earn more " is an act of counting the chickens before they hatch that will bring bad lucks.

why ?

you comments have confused me. I do not know what you are up to ?




Posted by sheldon > Mar 5, 2018 04:27 PM | Report Abuse

Mr Halite - I've been as investor/speculator on Bursa for more than 2 decades. Whilst your intentions are good and you seem to speak from the heart, it's my observation on numerous occasions that it's best to humble oneself and not to count the chickens before they hatch.

That's bad luck.



Posted by Halite > Mar 5, 2018 12:15 PM | Report Abuse X

why I said buy more earn more

let say you intend to buy 10k share at 12 and hope to make a 30% return
people want to sell you cheap
so you buy more and more slowly
at the end you collected 20k shares and the cost is reduced to 11
later if you able to sell all your holding at a 30% return at a lower TP
what is final result
12 x10000shares = RM120,000
120,000 x 30% = 36,000

11x 20000 shares = Rm 220,000
220,000 x 30% = 66,000

so you gain 30,000 more than you have wanted initially

you can always win more if you can survive longer than the market
but the main criteria is you have chosen the right stock to play

what happen if the market proves you wrong later
then, tell yourself , this is the amount you owed the winner in your previous life
now you pay back . no more debt after this and your luck will come.

Posted by Halite > 2018-03-05 17:50 | Report Abuse

so far I am very happy,

there is nobody spreading misleading information to create fear in this forum

what i have observed is a consensus or like-mindedness that Petronm is a good buy , oversold ,cheap to buy now and many waiting to collect more at a lower price .

Posted by neutrofil > 2018-03-05 18:25 | Report Abuse

Halite babi... even chart already show your exit.. still stubborn.. you are not insider.. dont know what company strategy

Posted by Halite > 2018-03-05 18:44 | Report Abuse

why score me "babi" ?
because I did not sell and buy more ?

I am sharing my experience with you, to help you
you should be thankful to me
not scoring me "babi"

Posted by AliCafe > 2018-03-05 18:50 | Report Abuse

Funny...hihihi

Posted by Halite > 2018-03-05 18:59 | Report Abuse

petronm is a good buy for long term
now selling cheap
the management is efficient
the business is doing well
hundred millions ringgit of free cash, no borrowing ,revenue improving YoY, earning improving YoY, better dividend YoY, recently the CEO has revealed that there is a plan to bring the company to the next higher level of growth. this expansion plan when announce later can be the "wow" factor or the catalyst that will drive the price shy high.

so good !!!!

i work so hard everyday to provide you the right information
I work so hard everyday to stop those "busuk hati" people to spread fear and misleading information
and you scold me "babi".

you are very ungrateful person

if you think what I am sharing is not right , then correct me lah....

why scold me "babi"

Posted by djibaok > 2018-03-05 19:02 | Report Abuse

Why so serious? Tis just a fo'en stock gossip forum.

Posted by JCWIN > 2018-03-05 19:08 | Report Abuse

Any effect on Petronm's sale/revenue, if HY shutdown its plant for schedule maintenance in 2018?

Posted by amet2017 > 2018-03-05 19:23 | Report Abuse

Bersabarlah abg halite

Posted by Halite > 2018-03-05 19:32 | Report Abuse

itu sudah pasti, kesabaran punca kejayaan

"keuntungan besar itu dibuat melalui sabar menunggu"

charles Munger : big money is made in the waiting

Posted by Halite > 2018-03-05 19:35 | Report Abuse

lahir anak pun kena tunggu 10 bulan.

apatah lagi tanam musang king .

Posted by nekosan > 2018-03-05 19:39 | Report Abuse

10.0 broken d ... thats it ... settle. mid term coming.tomorrow hengyuan will join petronm

Posted by neutrofil > 2018-03-05 20:06 | Report Abuse

Dont angry lah mr halite..baby cute what...dj koyakk..klci koyak..

Posted by ocpd > 2018-03-05 20:08 | Report Abuse

Halite you should feel grateful they didn't nail you on a cross just scold you babu. When Jesus saved them, they nailed him on the cross!

Posted by Halite > 2018-03-05 21:26 | Report Abuse

ocpd,

i am a buddhist
Jesus Christ love me because I am a Buddhist who love him

Posted by Halite > 2018-03-05 21:28 | Report Abuse

Nekosan,

you better join early, Petronm got "wow" factor

Hengyuan no more "wow" factor , KYY had left

Posted by Halite > 2018-03-05 21:29 | Report Abuse

Neutrofil,

I am not angry, I am angry if you do not learn from your mistake
now you learnt , I am happy

Posted by hollandking > 2018-03-05 21:31 | Report Abuse

u guys no need angry or sadlah,hy got a double slammed and still is kicking.